Flagship Fireside

Weaving Worlds: Indigenous Traditions & Western Psychotherapy

Eugenia Casimiro & Françoise Bourzat in conversation w/ Ismail Ali

Filmed February 14, 2020 in Berkeley, CA
Premiered November 18, 2020

*This conversation is in both English and Spanish. Please select CC for subtitles, next to settings.*

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In this unique cross-cultural conversation, we compare and discuss the connections between Mazatec healing traditions and Western psychotherapy.


Eugenia Casimiro, Mazatec healer
Françoise Bourzat, guide & author
In conversation w/ Ismail Ali, MAPS

Replay the followup live Q&A with Françoise & Izzy


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